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Rozmowy o Ukrainie w Abu Zabi przynoszą postęp w sprawie więźniów, ale nie w sprawie pokoju
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Rozmowy o Ukrainie w Abu Zabi przynoszą postęp w sprawie więźniów, ale nie w sprawie pokoju. Temat relacjonuje 5 wydawców: The Guardian, France 24, DW, NPR i POLITICO Europe.
Temat relacjonuje 5 wydawców: The Guardian, France 24, DW, NPR i POLITICO Europe. The Guardian: „Ukraine talks in Abu Dhabi bring progress on prisoners but not on peace” (11 listopada, 18:03). France 24: „Russia and Ukraine agree to major prisoner swap as peace talks end” (11 listopada, 22:46). The Guardian: „Ukraine war briefing: Zelenskyy sees ‘window of opportunity’ for peace as US envoys to meet Putin” (12 listopada, 02:58). DW: „Ukraine peace talks: US envoys arrive in Russia to meet with Putin” (12 listopada, 07:35). DW: „Ukraine peace talks: US envoys meet with Putin at Kremlin” (12 listopada, 07:35). NPR: „U.S. officials set to meet with Putin, Zelenskyy following Abu Dhabi peace talks” (12 listopada, 10:38). POLITICO Europe: „Russia attacks Ukraine hours after Abu Dhabi peace talks end” (12 listopada, 12:19). NPR: „U.S. envoys meet with Putin in the Kremlin after Ukraine talks in Abu Dhabi” (12 listopada, 16:26). DW: „What have the talks with Russia and the US in Abu Dhabi achieved for Ukraine?” (12 listopada, 17:44). POLITICO Europe: „What Vladimir Putin won in Abu Dhabi Ukraine peace talks” (13 listopada, 17:18).
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- Ukraine talks in Abu Dhabi bring progress on prisoners but not on peaceThe Guardian · 11 lis, 18:03 ↗
- Russia and Ukraine agree to major prisoner swap as peace talks endFrance 24 · 11 lis, 22:46 ↗
- Ukraine war briefing: Zelenskyy sees ‘window of opportunity’ for peace as US envoys to meet PutinThe Guardian · 12 lis, 02:58 ↗
- Ukraine peace talks: US envoys arrive in Russia to meet with PutinDW · 12 lis, 07:35 ↗
- Ukraine peace talks: US envoys meet with Putin at KremlinDW · 12 lis, 07:35 ↗
- U.S. officials set to meet with Putin, Zelenskyy following Abu Dhabi peace talksNPR · 12 lis, 10:38 ↗
- Russia attacks Ukraine hours after Abu Dhabi peace talks endPOLITICO Europe · 12 lis, 12:19 ↗
- U.S. envoys meet with Putin in the Kremlin after Ukraine talks in Abu DhabiNPR · 12 lis, 16:26 ↗
- What have the talks with Russia and the US in Abu Dhabi achieved for Ukraine?DW · 12 lis, 17:44 ↗
- What Vladimir Putin won in Abu Dhabi Ukraine peace talksPOLITICO Europe · 13 lis, 17:18 ↗
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Not much has been achieved in Abu Dhabi, but the framing of the talks has nevertheless been harmful, particularly for the Europeans. The Russians have achieved their goal of opening a discussion about the post-war European security order, which Kushner and Witkoff were ready to embrace.
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1. The U.S. – clearly Kushner and Witkoff, with Trump’s blessing – wants to bring about not only peace for peace’s sake, but also an opening for business deals with Russia. They probably want a credible excuse for opening a business track with Russia. After the midterms, securing business opportunities for family members and friends might be one of their goals. And here Europe might be an obstacle to remove – EU sanctions will prevent the launch of some envisaged U.S.-Russian business ventures, such as gas deliveries to Europe.
It is probably beyond Kushner and Witkoff’s comprehension what Putin really wants. They do not understand Russian thinking or the implications of concessions to Moscow for European security. They have no understanding of Russia’s goals and policies towards NATO, the EU and within the OSCE, either now or in the past.
Kushner during the press conference: “Something is clearly not working…”.
They say they want to preserve existing institutions and make NATO stronger, at the same time as Russia wants to undermine them. It is good that Gen. Grynkewich took part in the talks, providing a link to the realities on the ground. And these realities include – according to the Polish Defence Minister – the Pentagon agreeing today to station troops permanently in Poland and not objecting to Poland acquiring land-based Tomahawk missiles.
2. The Europeans – are being drawn into a tricky game. Ukraine wants Europe on board in order to secure European backing in its difficult talks with the U.S. Europe wants to know what the U.S. is discussing with Russia regarding the end of the war and post-war Ukraine, and for all the right reasons. The problem is that both Russia and Kushner/Witkoff have just sprung a trap by opening up discussions on post-war European security with the Europeans. And this trap carries two major risks.
First, it broadens the scope of the discourse. Once the topic has been opened and the Europeans have been drawn in, Russia and the U.S. will push Europe further towards engaging in these talks, with an unpredictable outcome.
Second, Europe has the problem of not being a single entity, of having differing perspectives and representatives, some of whom – in the race to “represent Europe” – might be more willing to go beyond previously agreed common positions.
All in all, I hope there is enough sense within the E4, EU and NATO to understand where this is heading, as Russia is unlikely to shift its positions.
As I write below 👇, a dangerous process begins aiming at luring Europe into talks on far more than ending the 🇷🇺🇺🇦 war:
“The U.S. has asked Russia to submit a new …
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proposal for a future security agreement with Europe that includes Russian steps to ease tension with the continent, two sources with knowledge of the matter said.”
axios.com/2026/11/11/russia-…
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Scoop: U.S. asks Russia to propose new security agreement with Europe
European countries doubt Russia would honor any deal.
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Justyna Gotkowska (
@jgotkowska)
Not much has been achieved in Abu Dhabi, but the framing of the talks has nevertheless been harmful, particularly for the Europeans. The Russians have achieved their goal of opening a discussion about the post-war European security order, which Kushner and Witkoff were ready to embrace.
1. The U.S. – clearly Kushner and Witkoff, with Trump’s blessing – wants to bring about not only peace for peace’s sake, but also an opening for business deals with Russia. They probably want a credible excuse for opening a business track with Russia. After the midterms, securing business opportunities for family members and friends might be one of their goals. And here Europe might be an obstacle to remove – EU sanctions will prevent the launch of some envisaged U.S.-Russian business ventures, such as gas deliveries to Europe.
It is probably beyond Kushner and Witkoff’s comprehension what Putin really wants. They do not understand Russian thinking or the implications of concessions to Moscow for European security. They have no understanding of Russia’s goals and policies towards NATO, the EU and within the OSCE, either now or in the past.
Kushner during the press conference: “Something is clearly not working…”.
They say they want to preserve existing institutions and make NATO stronger, at the same time as Russia wants to undermine them. It is good that Gen. Grynkewich took part in the talks, providing a link to the realities on the ground. And these realities include – according to the Polish Defence Minister – the Pentagon agreeing today to station troops permanently in Poland and not objecting to Poland acquiring land-based Tomahawk missiles.
2. The Europeans – are being drawn into a tricky game. Ukraine wants Europe on board in order to secure European backing in its difficult talks with the U.S. Europe wants to know what the U.S. is discussing with Russia regarding the end of the war and post-war Ukraine, and for all the right reasons. The problem is that both Russia and Kushner/Witkoff have just sprung a trap by opening up discussions on post-war European security with the Europeans. And this trap carries two major risks.
First, it broadens the scope of the discourse. Once the topic has been opened and the Europeans have been drawn in, Russia and the U.S. will push Europe further towards engaging in these talks, with an unpredictable outcome.
Second, Europe has the problem of not being a single entity, of having differing perspectives and representatives, some of whom – in the race to “represent Europe” – might be more willing to go beyond previously agreed common positions.
All in all, I hope there is enough sense within the E4, EU and NATO to understand where this is heading, as Russia is unlikely to shift its positions.
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Justyna Gotkowska @jgotkowska
Not much has been achieved in Abu Dhabi, but the framing of the talks has nevertheless been harmful, particularly for the Europeans. The Russians have achieved their goal of opening a discussion about the post-war European security order, which Kushner and Witkoff were ready to embrace.
1. The U.S. – clearly Kushner and Witkoff, with Trump’s blessing – wants to bring about not only peace for peace’s sake, but also an opening for business deals with Russia. They probably want a credible excuse for opening a business track with Russia. After the midterms, securing business opportunities for family members and friends might be one of their goals. And here Europe might be an obstacle to remove – EU sanctions will prevent the launch of some envisaged U.S.-Russian business ventures, such as gas deliveries to Europe.
It is probably beyond Kushner and Witkoff’s comprehension what Putin really wants. They do not understand Russian thinking or the implications of concessions to Moscow for European security. They have no understanding of Russia’s goals and policies towards NATO, the EU and within the OSCE, either now or in the past.
Kushner during the press conference: “Something is clearly not working…”.
They say they want to preserve existing institutions and make NATO stronger, at the same time as Russia wants to undermine them. It is good that Gen. Grynkewich took part in the talks, providing a link to the realities on the ground. And these realities include – according to the Polish Defence Minister – the Pentagon agreeing today to station troops permanently in Poland and not objecting to Poland acquiring land-based Tomahawk missiles.
2. The Europeans – are being drawn into a tricky game. Ukraine wants Europe on board in order to secure European backing in its difficult talks with the U.S. Europe wants to know what the U.S. is discussing with Russia regarding the end of the war and post-war Ukraine, and for all the right reasons. The problem is that both Russia and Kushner/Witkoff have just sprung a trap by opening up discussions on post-war European security with the Europeans. And this trap carries two major risks.
First, it broadens the scope of the discourse. Once the topic has been opened and the Europeans have been drawn in, Russia and the U.S. will push Europe further towards engaging in these talks, with an unpredictable outcome.
Second, Europe has the problem of not being a single entity, of having differing perspectives and representatives, some of whom – in the race to “represent Europe” – might be more willing to go beyond previously agreed common positions.
All in all, I hope there is enough sense within the E4, EU and NATO to understand where this is heading, as Russia is unlikely to shift its positions.
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Russian campaign on how to divide Europeans in full swing:
"And the third option he presented were bilateral mutual non-aggression pacts.
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For example, agreements of this kind could be reached, among other things, with individual NATO member states, which would then receive, for instance, additional individual security guarantees from the Russian Federation”
reuters.com/world/europe/rus…
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Russian diplomat says Moscow could conclude non-aggression pacts with NATO member states
A senior Russian diplomat said on Wednesday that Moscow could conclude non-aggression pacts with NATO member states as part of a new security architecture for Europe being discussed as part of the...
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Justyna Gotkowska (
@jgotkowska)
Not much has been achieved in Abu Dhabi, but the framing of the talks has nevertheless been harmful, particularly for the Europeans. The Russians have achieved their goal of opening a discussion about the post-war European security order, which Kushner and Witkoff were ready to embrace.
1. The U.S. – clearly Kushner and Witkoff, with Trump’s blessing – wants to bring about not only peace for peace’s sake, but also an opening for business deals with Russia. They probably want a credible excuse for opening a business track with Russia. After the midterms, securing business opportunities for family members and friends might be one of their goals. And here Europe might be an obstacle to remove – EU sanctions will prevent the launch of some envisaged U.S.-Russian business ventures, such as gas deliveries to Europe.
It is probably beyond Kushner and Witkoff’s comprehension what Putin really wants. They do not understand Russian thinking or the implications of concessions to Moscow for European security. They have no understanding of Russia’s goals and policies towards NATO, the EU and within the OSCE, either now or in the past.
Kushner during the press conference: “Something is clearly not working…”.
They say they want to preserve existing institutions and make NATO stronger, at the same time as Russia wants to undermine them. It is good that Gen. Grynkewich took part in the talks, providing a link to the realities on the ground. And these realities include – according to the Polish Defence Minister – the Pentagon agreeing today to station troops permanently in Poland and not objecting to Poland acquiring land-based Tomahawk missiles.
2. The Europeans – are being drawn into a tricky game. Ukraine wants Europe on board in order to secure European backing in its difficult talks with the U.S. Europe wants to know what the U.S. is discussing with Russia regarding the end of the war and post-war Ukraine, and for all the right reasons. The problem is that both Russia and Kushner/Witkoff have just sprung a trap by opening up discussions on post-war European security with the Europeans. And this trap carries two major risks.
First, it broadens the scope of the discourse. Once the topic has been opened and the Europeans have been drawn in, Russia and the U.S. will push Europe further towards engaging in these talks, with an unpredictable outcome.
Second, Europe has the problem of not being a single entity, of having differing perspectives and representatives, some of whom – in the race to “represent Europe” – might be more willing to go beyond previously agreed common positions.
All in all, I hope there is enough sense within the E4, EU and NATO to understand where this is heading, as Russia is unlikely to shift its positions.
—
nitter.jaydenha.uk/jgotkowska/status/2120588494120653046#m
Justyna Gotkowska @jgotkowska
Not much has been achieved in Abu Dhabi, but the framing of the talks has nevertheless been harmful, particularly for the Europeans. The Russians have achieved their goal of opening a discussion about the post-war European security order, which Kushner and Witkoff were ready to embrace.
1. The U.S. – clearly Kushner and Witkoff, with Trump’s blessing – wants to bring about not only peace for peace’s sake, but also an opening for business deals with Russia. They probably want a credible excuse for opening a business track with Russia. After the midterms, securing business opportunities for family members and friends might be one of their goals. And here Europe might be an obstacle to remove – EU sanctions will prevent the launch of some envisaged U.S.-Russian business ventures, such as gas deliveries to Europe.
It is probably beyond Kushner and Witkoff’s comprehension what Putin really wants. They do not understand Russian thinking or the implications of concessions to Moscow for European security. They have no understanding of Russia’s goals and policies towards NATO, the EU and within the OSCE, either now or in the past.
Kushner during the press conference: “Something is clearly not working…”.
They say they want to preserve existing institutions and make NATO stronger, at the same time as Russia wants to undermine them. It is good that Gen. Grynkewich took part in the talks, providing a link to the realities on the ground. And these realities include – according to the Polish Defence Minister – the Pentagon agreeing today to station troops permanently in Poland and not objecting to Poland acquiring land-based Tomahawk missiles.
2. The Europeans – are being drawn into a tricky game. Ukraine wants Europe on board in order to secure European backing in its difficult talks with the U.S. Europe wants to know what the U.S. is discussing with Russia regarding the end of the war and post-war Ukraine, and for all the right reasons. The problem is that both Russia and Kushner/Witkoff have just sprung a trap by opening up discussions on post-war European security with the Europeans. And this trap carries two major risks.
First, it broadens the scope of the discourse. Once the topic has been opened and the Europeans have been drawn in, Russia and the U.S. will push Europe further towards engaging in these talks, with an unpredictable outcome.
Second, Europe has the problem of not being a single entity, of having differing perspectives and representatives, some of whom – in the race to “represent Europe” – might be more willing to go beyond previously agreed common positions.
All in all, I hope there is enough sense within the E4, EU and NATO to understand where this is heading, as Russia is unlikely to shift its positions.
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